We had an interesting discussion yesterday during our church's Revelation Bible Study (we meet weekly, and it's led by a good friend of mine who blogs about it at The Watchman's Gaze). I didn't at all mean to derail the discussion, and I think I only sidetracked us for a few minutes, but I want other opinions. Revelation 3:14 provides:
To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this... (NASB)
Now, I don't mean to call into question the divinity of Jesus, or his role as creator, but as "the Beginning of the creation of God," was there a point in time where the manifestation of God as Jesus came into existence or did the representation of God as Jesus always exist?
Our discussion leader and our pastor (who blogs at the Monday Morning Review) were adamant (in a very friendly and cordial way-both are experienced in indulging my quirky rabbit trails) that Jesus always was. I, with very little other support around the table (except for possibly our pastor's wife-who doesn't blog yet), however, continue to be nagged with the metaphysical question of Jesus as "the Beginning of the creation of God" and as "...the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation..."
I certainly do not see it as heretical to think of Jesus coming into existence in some way as other reflections of God must have, His Word for example. I think we got hung up on the word "created." And I don't care if we use "created" or some other word to describe it. Physicists spend an awful lot of time and energy trying to figure out the moment of creation, but I want to know your thoughts about the time before that, specifically the moment of the creator.
Thoughts? Ideas? Scriptural Authority?