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	<title>Comments on: Jesus: Creator, Created, Both or Other</title>
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		<title>By: Juegos</title>
		<link>http://beautyofthebible.com/2010/01/06/jesus-creator-created-both-or-other/#comment-4959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juegos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 02:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post, I look forward to see more]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, I look forward to see more</p>
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		<title>By: Jason M Baird</title>
		<link>http://beautyofthebible.com/2010/01/06/jesus-creator-created-both-or-other/#comment-4483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason M Baird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 08:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bryon: Kudos on the fantastic video, it is a rare and scholarly explanation of the most basic principle in scripture....  Deut 6:4 &quot;Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD&quot;.  It is hard to worship if you are unsure of how many individuals are to be worshipped.

This simple command overrides man&#039;s interpretations of all other scripture.  It is akin to &quot;God is Good&quot;... so he can&#039;t be evil at the same time.  Likewise, God can not be both &quot;one&quot; and &quot;three&quot; in essence, but he can manifest his oneness in an infinite number of ways.

I will make two statements.
1) The &quot;Holy Spirit&quot; is the father&#039;s power manifest in our world.
2) The &quot;Son&quot; is the father in an earthly body.

While the &quot;Holy Spirit&quot; or spirit of truth (John 15:26) that anoints Jesus and gives him life is eternal and not a created being, the body in which he is clothed is a part of the creation.  It was at his baptism that it became evident that God the father was here with us, being translated into a mortal body via the &quot;Holy Spirit&quot; that descended and lighted upon Jesus.  Unfortunately some (as I did once) see this event as three perfectly unified individuals that comprise a Trinity.  The truth is always much simpler than we imagine.

This next part is really another discussion entirely, but it has relevence here.

Ask yourself who raised Jesus from the dead?  Now read the following scriptures and answer the question for each before preceding to the next.

Romans 10:9
Romans 8:11
John 10:17-18
John 2:19-21

Warm Regards,
Jason]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bryon: Kudos on the fantastic video, it is a rare and scholarly explanation of the most basic principle in scripture&#8230;.  Deut 6:4 &#8220;Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD&#8221;.  It is hard to worship if you are unsure of how many individuals are to be worshipped.</p>
<p>This simple command overrides man&#8217;s interpretations of all other scripture.  It is akin to &#8220;God is Good&#8221;&#8230; so he can&#8217;t be evil at the same time.  Likewise, God can not be both &#8220;one&#8221; and &#8220;three&#8221; in essence, but he can manifest his oneness in an infinite number of ways.</p>
<p>I will make two statements.<br />
1) The &#8220;Holy Spirit&#8221; is the father&#8217;s power manifest in our world.<br />
2) The &#8220;Son&#8221; is the father in an earthly body.</p>
<p>While the &#8220;Holy Spirit&#8221; or spirit of truth (John 15:26) that anoints Jesus and gives him life is eternal and not a created being, the body in which he is clothed is a part of the creation.  It was at his baptism that it became evident that God the father was here with us, being translated into a mortal body via the &#8220;Holy Spirit&#8221; that descended and lighted upon Jesus.  Unfortunately some (as I did once) see this event as three perfectly unified individuals that comprise a Trinity.  The truth is always much simpler than we imagine.</p>
<p>This next part is really another discussion entirely, but it has relevence here.</p>
<p>Ask yourself who raised Jesus from the dead?  Now read the following scriptures and answer the question for each before preceding to the next.</p>
<p>Romans 10:9<br />
Romans 8:11<br />
John 10:17-18<br />
John 2:19-21</p>
<p>Warm Regards,<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>By: SuzAnne</title>
		<link>http://beautyofthebible.com/2010/01/06/jesus-creator-created-both-or-other/#comment-4310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SuzAnne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am taking an online course at the Blue Letter Bible Site: &quot;Christology&quot;. This video just clarifies so well what I am learning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am taking an online course at the Blue Letter Bible Site: &#8220;Christology&#8221;. This video just clarifies so well what I am learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryon</title>
		<link>http://beautyofthebible.com/2010/01/06/jesus-creator-created-both-or-other/#comment-4277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 05:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter,
I haven&#039;t interacted with you much and I appreciate your blog. I&#039;m coming into this late. You may be interested in a video I just linked to on my blog. It&#039;s Dr. Michael Brown discussing something similar to what you posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi2nAHPpgvI]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,<br />
I haven&#8217;t interacted with you much and I appreciate your blog. I&#8217;m coming into this late. You may be interested in a video I just linked to on my blog. It&#8217;s Dr. Michael Brown discussing something similar to what you posted.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://beautyofthebible.com/2010/01/06/jesus-creator-created-both-or-other/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/xi2nAHPpgvI/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: sidleejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sidleejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the Forum:

Randy, &quot;Sid&#039;s heresy.&quot;

1) I have never posted a statement that is not firmly justified by the Bible, on ths forum.
2) Randy&#039;s posts are all heresy.
A) He quoted &quot;one Lord, one faith&quot; to be from the Bible.  But this is a lie!  These are the Seven Spirits of God: One Body (Righteousness), One Spirit (Wisdom &amp; Understanding), One Hope (Knowledge), One Lord (Judge [-ment]), One Faith (Counsel), One Dipping (Fear of He Is [HWHY]), One God (Might) - Ephesians 4.4-6 and Isaiah 11.1-4.

My &quot;possessing&quot; the Spirits of God makes me much, much wiser than Randy.
B) Randy quoted Jesus quoting the Septuagint (truthfully), and mistakenly said Jesus was proclaiming ths to be the word of God.  I demonstrated to Randy Jesus condemning the Septuagint by saying: 1) He had the power to forgive sins on earth (only God can forgive sins); 2) Jesus claimed the name of God from Exodus 3.14, &quot;I Am&quot; in JOhn 8.59 and others. Randy denied Jesus.  3) Randy quoted Malachi 2.10 as one of 395 verses in the Old Testament about &quot;one God&quot; (LA).  I informed Randy of 2,492 verses in the Old Testament about [plural] &quot;Gods&quot; (MYHLA).
Ranndy woud not repent!  Which one of us is the heretic?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Forum:</p>
<p>Randy, &#8220;Sid&#8217;s heresy.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) I have never posted a statement that is not firmly justified by the Bible, on ths forum.<br />
2) Randy&#8217;s posts are all heresy.<br />
A) He quoted &#8220;one Lord, one faith&#8221; to be from the Bible.  But this is a lie!  These are the Seven Spirits of God: One Body (Righteousness), One Spirit (Wisdom &amp; Understanding), One Hope (Knowledge), One Lord (Judge [-ment]), One Faith (Counsel), One Dipping (Fear of He Is [HWHY]), One God (Might) &#8211; Ephesians 4.4-6 and Isaiah 11.1-4.</p>
<p>My &#8220;possessing&#8221; the Spirits of God makes me much, much wiser than Randy.<br />
B) Randy quoted Jesus quoting the Septuagint (truthfully), and mistakenly said Jesus was proclaiming ths to be the word of God.  I demonstrated to Randy Jesus condemning the Septuagint by saying: 1) He had the power to forgive sins on earth (only God can forgive sins); 2) Jesus claimed the name of God from Exodus 3.14, &#8220;I Am&#8221; in JOhn 8.59 and others. Randy denied Jesus.  3) Randy quoted Malachi 2.10 as one of 395 verses in the Old Testament about &#8220;one God&#8221; (LA).  I informed Randy of 2,492 verses in the Old Testament about [plural] &#8220;Gods&#8221; (MYHLA).<br />
Ranndy woud not repent!  Which one of us is the heretic?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy A Brown</title>
		<link>http://beautyofthebible.com/2010/01/06/jesus-creator-created-both-or-other/#comment-4274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy A Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can prove anything you want by writing your own translation. If it takes your own translation to prove your doctrine then you have the wrong doctrine. 

Sid, the only thing I’m sorry for is that I couldn’t convince you of the truth of God’s Word. 

This is my last post on this topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can prove anything you want by writing your own translation. If it takes your own translation to prove your doctrine then you have the wrong doctrine. </p>
<p>Sid, the only thing I’m sorry for is that I couldn’t convince you of the truth of God’s Word. </p>
<p>This is my last post on this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy A Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy A Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter, I&#039;m with Joel on this. I would reconsider how you allow comments on your site. I know you don&#039;t want your site affiliated with this type of nonsense. I wouldn&#039;t even want it posted so that others could get confused by it. Comments can sometimes be dangerous and do more harm than good. Sid’s heresy is good proof of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I&#8217;m with Joel on this. I would reconsider how you allow comments on your site. I know you don&#8217;t want your site affiliated with this type of nonsense. I wouldn&#8217;t even want it posted so that others could get confused by it. Comments can sometimes be dangerous and do more harm than good. Sid’s heresy is good proof of that.</p>
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		<title>By: sidleejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sidleejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy A. Brown:

Too proud to repent, are you?

What I keft out was not meant to deceive anyone like your omissions were.

I did not leave out anything about the &quot;double-use&quot; of the word &quot;Israel&quot; referring to &quot;children of flesh&quot; and &quot;children of promise.&quot;

This is what you were missing.

I was only trying to help, but that was not to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy A. Brown:</p>
<p>Too proud to repent, are you?</p>
<p>What I keft out was not meant to deceive anyone like your omissions were.</p>
<p>I did not leave out anything about the &#8220;double-use&#8221; of the word &#8220;Israel&#8221; referring to &#8220;children of flesh&#8221; and &#8220;children of promise.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is what you were missing.</p>
<p>I was only trying to help, but that was not to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy A Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy A Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sid - How much of Rom 9.6-8 did you leave out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sid &#8211; How much of Rom 9.6-8 did you leave out?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter, it is evident that your spam filter isn&#039;t working :)]]></description>
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